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	<title>Comments on: Calgary is big enough for better transit</title>
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		<title>By: BusDriver</title>
		<link>http://www.sowrey.org/2007/11/16/calgary-is-big-enough-for-better-transit/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>BusDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>`It’s about making better (that includes regularly-staffed, regularly-timed, and appropriately-equipped) bus routes, dedicated lanes during rush hours to funnel people in and out of downtown,`
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To staff buses they need to make the job attractive enough otherwise not enough quality people will apply and even more importantly stay with the job for the long term. That is what the City needs. 

Dedicated lanes can be done on 9th, 5th, 4th and 6th Ave's and more signal priority can be given to Transit buses. Also, HOV lanes can be put in. The City has the power to do all this. It is a matter of willpower. A bylaw, similar to Vancouver, can also be implemented where its a $300.00 fine for not letting a bus pull out after it services a stop. Having said all that, that bylaw as well as signal priority and HOV lanes are no good if cars who don't follow those laws are not ticketed and fined.


Signal priority for C-trains to go through 9 st SW from 4th Ave to 6th Ave should be reinstated. That is killing c-train service frequency to the NW.  The City unfortunately chose to give cars using 4th,5th and 6th Aves priority over C-trains.


` buried transit lines downtown, more C-Train lines, `
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Easier said then done. It involves a lot of money being spent. Money that the City does not have. Even with the money it will require a lot of time for construction.  If nothing else, the schedule for 4 car train platforms could be upped in timeline. There should be a noticeable difference once the approved West LRT line is done and running.  There are several major intersections that need to be redone or converted to overpasses, including the following:

- Crowchild Tr and Bow Tr SW

- 16 Ave NE and 68 St

- Glenmore and Sarcee

- The yield sign @ Peigan Tr onto S.B. Deerfoot

etc.




'and maybe (just maybe) trains to/from High River, Canmore, Strathmore, and Airdrie.'
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Sure, if the taxpayers in those towns pay their fair share. A more effective way to cut down on road traffic is to make the entrances into Calgary all toll roads (eg. Deerfoot &#38; Country Hills, Highway #2 city limit, Glenmore and 69 st, Highway #1 and 84 st, etc., Glenmore and 84 st.). Either way those who choose to live in places like Airdrie, Chestermere, etc. and work in Calgary should pay to use transit and roads of Calgary one way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>`It’s about making better (that includes regularly-staffed, regularly-timed, and appropriately-equipped) bus routes, dedicated lanes during rush hours to funnel people in and out of downtown,`<br />
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<p>To staff buses they need to make the job attractive enough otherwise not enough quality people will apply and even more importantly stay with the job for the long term. That is what the City needs. </p>
<p>Dedicated lanes can be done on 9th, 5th, 4th and 6th Ave&#8217;s and more signal priority can be given to Transit buses. Also, HOV lanes can be put in. The City has the power to do all this. It is a matter of willpower. A bylaw, similar to Vancouver, can also be implemented where its a $300.00 fine for not letting a bus pull out after it services a stop. Having said all that, that bylaw as well as signal priority and HOV lanes are no good if cars who don&#8217;t follow those laws are not ticketed and fined.</p>
<p>Signal priority for C-trains to go through 9 st SW from 4th Ave to 6th Ave should be reinstated. That is killing c-train service frequency to the NW.  The City unfortunately chose to give cars using 4th,5th and 6th Aves priority over C-trains.</p>
<p>` buried transit lines downtown, more C-Train lines, `<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Easier said then done. It involves a lot of money being spent. Money that the City does not have. Even with the money it will require a lot of time for construction.  If nothing else, the schedule for 4 car train platforms could be upped in timeline. There should be a noticeable difference once the approved West LRT line is done and running.  There are several major intersections that need to be redone or converted to overpasses, including the following:</p>
<p>- Crowchild Tr and Bow Tr SW</p>
<p>- 16 Ave NE and 68 St</p>
<p>- Glenmore and Sarcee</p>
<p>- The yield sign @ Peigan Tr onto S.B. Deerfoot</p>
<p>etc.</p>
<p>&#8216;and maybe (just maybe) trains to/from High River, Canmore, Strathmore, and Airdrie.&#8217;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Sure, if the taxpayers in those towns pay their fair share. A more effective way to cut down on road traffic is to make the entrances into Calgary all toll roads (eg. Deerfoot &amp; Country Hills, Highway #2 city limit, Glenmore and 69 st, Highway #1 and 84 st, etc., Glenmore and 84 st.). Either way those who choose to live in places like Airdrie, Chestermere, etc. and work in Calgary should pay to use transit and roads of Calgary one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.sowrey.org/2007/11/16/calgary-is-big-enough-for-better-transit/#comment-3662</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're kidding -- charging for P&#038;R? Great way to put up a barrier to access. Sure, they might be thinking more people would take the bus, but how good are the bus feeders? 

I don't dig zoning, admittedly. Never liked that, regardless of the intent. $9 to take SkyTrain each day adds up quickly, and is yet another deterrent to public transit. 

S -- my memory of decent transit seems to exist north of the Fraser. Given, I didn't travel much in New West, but it seemed good in Burnaby, Coquitlam, and North Vancouver. West Van was a bit odd, only because most people there seem to drive. I only know the route from the airport to Vancouver, so can't really comment much on Richmond. Delta et al are a mystery. 

My point was that there were at least considerations well beyond one city. Calgary has problems within its own city, let alone all the commuters from parts outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re kidding &#8212; charging for P&#038;R? Great way to put up a barrier to access. Sure, they might be thinking more people would take the bus, but how good are the bus feeders? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t dig zoning, admittedly. Never liked that, regardless of the intent. $9 to take SkyTrain each day adds up quickly, and is yet another deterrent to public transit. </p>
<p>S &#8212; my memory of decent transit seems to exist north of the Fraser. Given, I didn&#8217;t travel much in New West, but it seemed good in Burnaby, Coquitlam, and North Vancouver. West Van was a bit odd, only because most people there seem to drive. I only know the route from the airport to Vancouver, so can&#8217;t really comment much on Richmond. Delta et al are a mystery. </p>
<p>My point was that there were at least considerations well beyond one city. Calgary has problems within its own city, let alone all the commuters from parts outside.</p>
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		<title>By: S.</title>
		<link>http://www.sowrey.org/2007/11/16/calgary-is-big-enough-for-better-transit/#comment-3661</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you give Vancouver too much credit.  The City of Vancouver proper may have pretty good transit, if you are travelling within Vancouver - but if you look at the region as a whole, getting around the suburbs and from suburbs to downtown can be hell.  For instance, imagine a region of over 500,000 (Surrey) having only 2 SkyTrain stations. And travelling the 3 transit zones from Surrey to downtown would cost $4.50 each way.  The Park and Ride lot is even starting to charge 1 or $2 to park!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you give Vancouver too much credit.  The City of Vancouver proper may have pretty good transit, if you are travelling within Vancouver - but if you look at the region as a whole, getting around the suburbs and from suburbs to downtown can be hell.  For instance, imagine a region of over 500,000 (Surrey) having only 2 SkyTrain stations. And travelling the 3 transit zones from Surrey to downtown would cost $4.50 each way.  The Park and Ride lot is even starting to charge 1 or $2 to park!</p>
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